From:           Paul Morgan

To:               Mark Scale

Sent: 02 July 2014 08:59 Subject: G.S.Hall on Scales Hi Mark.

Here's the mentions of Gilbert Hall when he was riding Scales which I unearthed recently at VMCC library. A member of the team had reported that they found no trace of G,S,Hall in any large trials, 6 Days, London-E'burgh or in T.T.S

However, the snippets I discovered were:

Motorcycle Magazine Aug 1st 1912 - Sheffield and Hallamshire Club's Open Hill Climb, at Slack Hill, Chesterfield. Class 4, T.T. singles up to 500 cc - G.S.Hall is listed amongst timed competitors.

M.M. Sept 5th 1912, Nottingham MC Club Speed Trials on the sands at Mablethorpe. Open Scratch (under 500cc) - G.S.Hall on 3 1/2 hp Scale won; he was also 1st on same bike in the Open Handicap (all comers) race.
The lady at VMCC I was in contact with originally said she had found 2 photos of G.S.HaIl, one at Axe Edge Hill Climb, Stockport MC 1913, and one at Oakamoor Hill Climb, run by Derby and N. Staffs AC in 1912.

Unfortunately this is the person who then disappeared, and I have not been able to re-discover the pictures she referred to.

The couple of photos I found, one showed G.S.H in action at New Hempton, riding a New Hudson (he rode an Indian and a NUT on other occasions).

The one I have of him on a 3 1/2 hp Scale/Jap is at Sheffield and Hallamshire Hill Climb in 1912. I don't have specific date for that event. The picture in Motorcycle mag actually in the printed title called the rider G.S.'HuIl', but as there were no men called Hull in all the accounts I trawled through, I'm sure that it was Gilbert. The scene is at the start, with a group of men around him; I can't make out his number. I don't know if that is the same photo you talked of which included your Grandfather, but I'd be interested to see. Perhaps your other photo is the same one as was told about?

Did you say you had the Motorcycle magazine collection on file for you to consult? Otherwise I can send you copies of the pages I obtained which detail the above.

Your archive, bikes, and family link is fascinating, and unexpected when I was doing the research - mostly it is hard to get through to any descendants of the people from that era, so I was delighted to hear more.

Best wishes, Paul.